Monday, June 2, 2014

Do the math

From the Roland Garros website:
The fight against drugs 
Drug-testing is carried out under the auspices of the International Tennis Federation (ITF).
At the 2013 French Open, almost 200 tests were carried out on players entered in the men's and women's singles and doubles main draws as well as the qualifiers and the juniors' tournaments.
Special areas dedicated to testing are located in the players' zone near to the locker-rooms.
About 200 tests covering how many players across how many draws?

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  1. 200 tests? On the official Roland Garros site I counted 234 players in the main draw (men and women) listed alphabetically up till the letter 'G'. (I ran out of interest after that.) That's the 7th letter in the alphabet, out of a total of 26. Do the math...

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  2. So there are 128 singles entrants on each side of the draw, plus doubles, plus juniors, plus qualifying. We're talking well over 500+ players in all likelihood, and not even half of them were tested last year.

    Pathetic. And tennis wonders why people crap on their (lack of ) testing methods.

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    1. And of course, no doubt the unlucky few players being tested, were the lower ranked nobodies rather than the top seeds.

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  3. Not tennis obviously, but just seen Tyson Gay will be back in July after a very long two month ban for testing positive, just the three times, for steroids! Yet people are getting 2 yr bans for nonsense stuff like rec. drugs or using the wrong cold medicine. Sport is corrupt.

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  4. I don't know if you guys have noticed Gulbis recent declarations:

    “I felt physically so good, I felt that I can run forever. I felt that he cannot make winners. That's how I felt on court. I felt that I covered it really well. If I feel so confident from the baseline, then everything just comes together.”

    "What took me so long? I think I was eating wrong. I had the wrong diet. Everybody was talking about this gluten-free diet. My diet is full on gluten. I like a lot of ketchup, a lot of unhealthy stuff so there is a balance which I found in the last couple of years,"
    http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/06/23/Roland-Garros-Tuesday2-Berdych-Gulbis.aspx
    http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/06/23/Roland-Garros-Gulbis-Djokovic-Gluten-Smackdown.aspx

    H'es being cynical about doping? Well, at least, someone acknowledges it! xD

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    1. Those are some eye brow raising statements there by Gulbis.

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    2. I hope in the near future this irreverent Gulbis woud be careless enough to make a crack in the 'underground' doping scene for all to see.

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    3. Yeah, xenon is gluten free. Nice diet. Hear its popular in former Soviet Union.

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    4. Gulbis has been running down Djokovic for a while now (see his comments about Djokovic from last year), so I took it to mean both him snarking on Djokovic's diet change and implying that there is something more behind Djokovic's form the last 3 years.

      Of course I could be reaching but there is history between these two - at least on Gulbis' end.

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  6. Let's hope Errani keeps losing. Watching this juicer in her qtr final made me sick in the stomach. She is the female Ferrer, completely boring and completely lacking in any big shot, just runs down balls and gets them back. Thinking of her coach's comments about sure she worked with Del Moral but only for one cardiac exam, then two months later she tells the world that he was the best doctor for everything, makes me sick too in their lying hypocrisy.

    And what's wig her stupid grunting? I have never heard such bad grunting, calling out 'eh!' After most shots. I'd rather watch and listen to a 7-6 6-7 12-10 sharapova v Azarenka match then listen to a few games of Errani screeching.

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  7. Mach es fur Unser alle, Andrea!

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  8. Good to see the turkey thigh legged energiser bunny Italian with neck veins the size of Ferrer's get knocked out, quite the upset given her 'form' so far this slam.

    The men's side isn't exactly a joy to watch either. Predictably Nadal and David 'eternal youth' Ferrer will bore us to death with a 6-3 6-3 6-2 qtr final. Nadal's draw really has been a 500 tournament feel to it. We can dream that Murray will beat him in the semi, but we know that won't happen. In the bottom half I have been rooting for Djuicervic, as he is the only one who can beat Nadal on clay right now. And, to be honest I think he will too. Unless Gulbis pulls another one out of his backside in the semi. In which case it could be a very interesting final given Nadal's recent form in slam finals going in as the hot favourite against a player in hot form. But alas, this slam is on clay, not plexicushion, and Nadal is surely a shoe in against anyone but Djoko...

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    1. Interesting. Nadal's "back" issues from earlier in the tournament seemed to have cleared up overnight, as he has been pumping serves down in the high 190's against Ferrer. (The knees - remember those? - are also great - and have been since his 7 month break last year.) Oh, to have serious injuries that leave without trace, and at the most convenient time - another grand slam quarter final. (Of course if Ferrer succeeds in winning another set today we can expect to hear quite another story from the Perpetually Whining Self-pitying One.)

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    2. Can Murray do the unthinkable? He has managed to beat the formerly unbeatable(to him) Federer and Djokovic at slams. Maybe now it is Nadal's turn to suffer the unexpected loss? Murray has nothing to lose - this is not his favorite surface and few expect him to win. I hope he can accomplish the impossible. And it will be nice to see Gulbis pull off yet another upset though I expect him to maybe win a set at best against Djokovic.

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    3. So much for Ferrer challenging Nadal this year. What an embarrassment those last two sets were - couldn't even find the court half the time and dumped endless balls into the net.

      If Murray plays the RG semis like he did in the Rome semis, he has a very good shot. But Nadal's win today had to have given him confidence - wonder how his back is feeling? I didn't see the press conference - is he still sticking to his back injury story or he is waiting until he loses to bring it up again?

      I would laugh if this was a Gulbis-Murray final.

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  9. If I didn't know better I'd think that match was fixed. It's almost as if it was understood Ferrer would win the first set and then disappear. The light was fading and Nadal didn't want to come back tomorrow so Ferrer just "threw in the towel" (his own words). Shame on him. But really who can lame him? Nadal is a beast. No one wants to play him, except maybe Djokovic.

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    1. Those were very strange words from Ferrer. At a set apiece he just basically quit. Basically he admitted he tanked. He beat Nadal in Monte Carlo a few weeks ago (granted it was best of 3), He also has multiple other victories over Nadal in Slams - the U.S. Open and Australia. All of a sudden he doesn't think he can hang with Nadal anymore even after beating him on clay this year? I think if he had actually tried he could have pushed it to another day to give Nadal something to think about.

      This is just incredibly strange from Ferrer who is known to go down fighting. Monfils was down 2 sets to zero against Murray and leveled it up before losing in the fifth.

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  10. Gulbis coach G. Bresnik: Ernests hasn’t a hope in SF. Djokovic will lift RG trophy

    Former coach to Thomas Muster, Henri Leconte and Boris Becker, Austrian Gunther Bresnik’s new charge is Ernests Gulbis, whom he has transformed into a focused, hard-working player. He appears (deliberately?) to have little optimism before his semifinal against Djokovic.

    On his match against Berdych
    “Ernests played a truly excellent match in the quarter final. As soon as Berdych had any chances to get back in the game, Ernests took control quite brilliantly. He served very well when he needed to, especially on the second serve, sent lobs at the right time and I think his passing shots were also really effective.”

    The new Gulbis
    “Ernests also had a very good attitude on the court towards Berdych and throughout the tournament. Now he knows he can keep up the pace because he works hard. His win over Federer was not an end in itself. Physically, he is now tapping into his potential. I think he has a greater hitting range than before, and is particularly strong on drop shots and lobs”.

    Djokovic the favourite
    “Ernests hasn’t a hope against Novak. Djokovic is the favourite here, he’s tried several times before and this time he’ll be the one to lift the trophy at Roland Garros, I’m sure of it. I guarantee you.”

    What are Gulbis’ chances?
    “He’d need a miracle. Without a miracle there’s no chance. Ernests is playing at a high level. But he’s still 10-15% lower than Djokovic’s average. Novak plays consistently for hours, so 3 or 4 games per set would be incredible for Ernests. I’m already very happy with how the tournament’s gone. Even if Novak has an off-day, the gap is too great, he has more experience. And Djokovic really wants the title.”

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    1. LOL sounds like Uncle Toni who always says that Nadal's opponents are better than him.

      I just hope Gulbis makes it a match. Same with Murray in the Nadal match.

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    2. neither of your hopes are coming true. At least Gulbis took a set off of Djokovic but Murray looks as useless as all the rest of Nadal's opponents this tournament. What a cakewalk the guy has had.

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  11. Bresnik: Physically, he is now tapping into his potential

    Gulbis: I felt physically so good, I felt that I can run forever. I felt that he cannot make winners. That's how I felt on court. I felt that I covered it really well..What took me so long?

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    Should we be reading between the lines?
    And yes, I wonder too. What took you so long?

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    1. Gulbis (from 2011):

      Gulbis said there was no single turning point when he decided to improve his off-the-court discipline and commitment to train, but it appears to have coincided with the hiring of the former Argentine tennis pro Guillermo Cañas as his coach this summer.

      Cañas, 33, was known for his fitness regimen and relentlessness during his playing days. The carefree Gulbis has now been paired with a grinder. Cañas also comes with a past, having been barred for 15 months after a doping test found traces of a diuretic, a banned substance. Cañas blamed a cold medication.

      Asked if he worried about his coach’s history, Gulbis said: “I also have a bad reputation, so we are suited for each other. I never care what somebody says about somebody. I don’t care.”

      Gulbis credited Cañas with getting him in shape for the Open with three devoted weeks of training in Miami.

      “He is hard-working and systematic,” Gulbis said of Cañas. “It is not complex. We practice well, and if you do that every day, you will improve. It helps you mentally as well. You feel more prepared.”

      Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/sports/tennis/2011-us-open-ernests-gulbis-forgoes-partying-well-for-playing-well.html?_r=0

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    2. Good find Picassowhat. I forgot about the Gulbis-Canas association.

      Why would any half-decent player want anything to do with a doper like Canas?

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    3. What do you mean? A lot of reputable players work with Canas...
      http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com/2011/04/odesnik-strong-but-canas-stronger.html

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    4. This is just ridiculous, how the average nadal shot bounces to above the opponents shoulder, let alone his head. I don't even know why they still bother with a net.

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  12. It's hard to believe Murray is a double grand-slam champion. He can do nothing out there. The intimidation factor is complete. Djokovic, you say? He'd better start playing like an alien - because he will be playing one in the final.

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  13. As usual in the FO, Nadal becomes an unbeatable monster from the semis. His doping program is that accurate.... He will beat the Djoker in 3 or 4 sets on Sunday.

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  14. I guess it's safe to say there's no testing going on in Paris ATM. #shocking

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  15. The thing I'm most worried about, is that he'll never get caught. Armstrong would never have been caught without his comeback, Florence Griffith was never officially caught and there are other examples. This is a very sad state of affairs. It reminds me of cycling in the nineties. Superhuman performance without any signs of fatigue... ever. Tennis used to be my favorite sport. It isn't anymore.

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  16. Nadal has nothing more to prove in tennis, or does he?

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  17. Absolutely sickening. I didn't expect Murray to win - had he done against the most obvious doper in the business it might have made me question my belief in Murray. I did however expect a slightly more equal contest. I think Nadal will win on Sunday. Tennis is meaningless now.

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    1. I don't know if I can watch the men's final.

      Novak "I have a wrist injury" Djokovic vs. Rafael "I have bad knees/ bad back/stomachache/headache/etc" Nadal

      Yet both are playing like they have zero injuries.

      I guess if I had a gun to my head and was forced to choose a player I'd rather Djokovic win because Nadal is the most egregious doper in tennis history.

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    2. I shan't watch the final either. If I want to see two lots of chemicals battling out for supremacy I can go to a chemistry lab. If I have to pick one of the two most obvious dopers to win, I think I would prefer Nadal because every victory just adds to the farce tennis has become with him and Djokovic playing. Another French Open will be meaningless to Nadal, whereas Djokovic wining gives another doper the career slam. In terms of minimal damage limitation it's probably better if Nadal gets another Roland Garos trophy to gnaw on.

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    3. Sadly Nadal is going to tie Pete Sampras with the likely win on Sunday. I hope Djokovic can win just to prevent that.

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    4. I think almost nobody denies on this site that Djoker is a big cheater too (as all the biggest rivals of Armstrong probably were) but the real tragedy for Tennis is that he looks almost clean in comparison with the cheating emperor, his excellency Rafa. Its also hard to deny that his draws in the slams are often much tougher than for Nadal.

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    5. "I think almost nobody denies on this site that Djoker is a big cheater too (as all the biggest rivals of Armstrong probably were) but the real tragedy for Tennis is that he looks almost clean in comparison with the cheating emperor, his excellency Rafa."

      Nonsense. His stamina is ludicrous and not one iota inferior. The only difference is that his strokes look more elegant and he likely started juicing later.

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  18. This is really really bad!, Nadal is making Murray look like such an amateur despite Murray taking a massage break. Spanish juice is beyond belief! This really sucks the big one if juiced up Sharapova & juiced up Nadoosh win FO. The commentators keep blaming Murray for playing so poorly, but excuse me look who's on the other side of net getting to every ball, hitting it superhuman hard with unbelievable topspin, serving like crazy hard, Nadal adjusts his juice to the player he's playing & the point in the tourney he's at.

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    1. I think this is true. Why else does he always play better at the end of majors when he's playing the tougher opponents? Do they really not test these guys? What am I saying? Of course they don't. And if they do and there's a positive test it's swept under the rug. Disgusting.

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    2. Not only that, Murray played really well in Rome when they played each other in the semis. It's almost like he was replaced by different player. Then again, Murray had a long five-setter and was probably feeling the effects of that while his opponent - who allegedly has a bad back and bad knees - raced through him like it was nobody's business.

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    3. Maybe we should look at the draw and understand how that makes a big difference. Murray's avg. opponent ranking going into the SF was 39. Nadal's was 100. Just for the record, Djokovic's was 26 and Gulbis's was 52. Wow. How does Nadal get so damn lucky? I know you can only beat the player across the net. But the pundits still bring up how Federer didn't have to beat Nadal to win his RG title because of Robin Soderling. And I want to punch them and say, but he beat the guy across the net. Isn't that good enough? Do we need to asterisk this? Like they asterisked Wawrinka's win at the Australian Open? Will they ever asterisk a Nadal win because of his easy draws? Or because his opponent was injured? Or because of his gamesmanship/on-court coaching etc. etc.?

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    4. Nadal is smaller than Murray - 6'1' to Murray's 6'3". But he is twice as powerful as the Scot. Like everyone else, Murray looks like a schoolboy against Nadal on clay. All Nadal has to do to win the point apparently is get the ball on his forehand and then from virtually any court position he can win the point. According to the commentators he hits with "30% more spin than any other player on the tour". So how does he do it? No one explains. You wonder when will the tennis community catch on that this guy is simply another Lance Armstrong.

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    5. Excellent idea Lopi to look at the avg opponent ranking. I wouldn't be surprised that we will find the same numbers for most Nadal's draws at the slams which are so often strangely easy. If its true that the draws are rigged in his favor plus the obvious juicing since a very young age, then Nadal could well be by far the biggest fraud in the history of sport.

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    6. "Nadal is smaller than Murray - 6'1' to Murray's 6'3". But he is twice as powerful as the Scot."

      This is why no one takes you seriously.

      How much of a fucktard do you have to be to believe that Nadal is more powerful than Murray, let alone "twice as much"? Murray on a good day blows Nadal off the court. (Tokyo 11)

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    7. The h2h is 15 to 5 in Nadal's favour. In his latest win over the Scot, Nadal conceded only 6 games over 3 sets. Nadal is of course famous for being a soft-hitting 'touch' player. His forehand is really a pussy. And Murray was only running frantically from sideline to sideline because he wanted the exercise, not because he was chasing Nadal's shots. Despite being 6'3' Murray likes people to believe that when he is playing - and losing to - Rafa he is really the 5'6" Olivier Rochus - just in case people might think there should be no reason that the smaller (than him) Rafa is belting him off the court.

      Your powers of observation are as impressive as your vocabulary.

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  19. It seems those days Nadal loses on purpose on minor tournaments to look more "clean". Anyway, he removes the mask at the slams, especially at the FO which is literally his property since almost a decade.
    Djokovic won his last 4 finals against the Beast but I don't think he has even the slightest chance to win on Sunday, when it counts the most.

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    1. His biggest chance was in 2011 when he was owning Nadal. Unfortunately he lost to Fed in the SF and then of course the inevitable happened in the final. That was a great moment when Federer beat Djokovic but it was truly bittersweet.

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    2. Don't underestimate Nadal's mental block against Djokovic. It's seemingly nowhere near as bad as Federer's against Nadal, but it's real.

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    3. That Federer/Djokovic semi Lopi really seemed like a David vs. Goliath moment. It's weird to think of then under 30 y.o. 16 time GS winner Federer as "David", but that's what this era has become. Federer's game seems so fragile compared to physical players like Djokovic and Nadal.

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    4. I agree but at least the Federer-Djokovic matches have always a lot of suspense ( their head to head confirms it)

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    5. "Don't underestimate Nadal's mental block against Djokovic. It's seemingly nowhere near as bad as Federer's against Nadal, but it's real."

      Federer has no mental block against Nadal you idiot. His playing style is simply impotent against Nadal.

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  20. For the first time since the 1999 Australian Open, I am not watching a Grand Slam tournament. It's a farce that the chronically "injured" Nadal, with the toughest playing style in tennis history is now playing better at 28 than Federer and Sampras were at that age. Federer and Sampras had much easier and efficient playing styles and yet had clearly declined by then. Every expert said Nadal could not physically last past 25-26, yet he's probably going to dominate another 5 years or more. Players with Nadal's playing style, cannot play at the level for a full decade as he has. With the number of matches he's played and miles run It's just not possible, with or without injuries.

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    1. Let's not also forget that Nadal was an early bloomer as well. Yet he's still going strong.

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    2. Yes exactly. Nadal was still a teenager when started dominating on clay and winning majors. Federer and Sampras didn't start dominating until 21-22, and then slowly faded during their late 20's. I cant believe more fans haven't started to question what Nadal is accomplishing at this age. Wilander, who played a similar, yet less taxing game than Nadal was completely fried by 23-24.

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    3. Also consider Borg, who was at least mentally burnt out very early.

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    4. Ferrer is playing his best tennis at 33. Nadal is 28. So he has maybe another 5 French titles ahead of him? How about 14 grand slam titles on just one surface? Let's hear it for Mr Natural.

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    5. Which would be double what Federer and Sampras did at their best majors (7 each at Wimbledon). Vamos Nadal!

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  21. Well, that was one heck of an impressive physical effort by Maria Sharapova. It reminds me of Francesca Schiavone in her best days...

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    1. From cow on ice, to queen of clay. Unbelievable.

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    2. Can't believe one minute that Sharapova is clean. She has a playing style similar to Nadoosh except without the crazy spin. And her "belief" & "confidence" is so amazing!! In fact, she can beat any player on women's side except Serena while Nadoosh takes everyone out except Djoker. These players really destroy the natural beauty of the game.

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    3. I tend to disagree. She could be juiced but you can't compare with Nadal. Sharapova is not especially fast and she doesn't have unbelievable stamina (lots of high an low during this match). She is very powerful, but she's not the unbeievable "whole package" of the spaniard.

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    4. well she can't serve most of the time. I guess that's one difference between the Ice Queen and the King of Clay. He always manages to find that incredibly fast serve when he needs it ('10USO). But the time taken to serve and her outrageous celebrations when she wins big points are certainly reminiscent of Nadal. Did she even get one time violation today?

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    5. There's no real 'clay' court tennis anymore in the women's game, it's just big hitting and reminiscent of hard court tennis. No finesse whatsoever and nothing to set it apart from the other surfaces, which is what it's supposed to do. I can't compare it to when the likes of Evert were winning the title.

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    6. True & true. But Sharapova also has that annoying grunt that Nadoosh belts out as well to intimidate opponents! I kinda feel though if u took Serena out of the equation, Sharapova would have won much more slams. She may not have a great serve but for woman that tall she moves well enough around the court to control hitting her incredibly powerful shots & grind. I guess it just makes me really mad that talented players don't get chances in the limelight cause these greedy, monopolizing players who seem so unnatural---well, there are just no words...

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    7. Four consecutive very tough matches on her supposed worst surface but no signs of exhaustion at all despite her size. Very suspicious in my view.

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    8. I couldnt believe how many times Halep had Sharapova in a bad position, off the court, on the run, and Maria was able to blast black screamers deep into the court or at an incredible angle.

      Now, alot of that is by design. Movement has always been Maria's weakness and her game is designed to minimize exposure of her lateral movement. Thus, when she is pulled out wide on the stretch that when she either goes for a down the line screamer or hits it hard with a fine cc angle or in the corner.

      The wonder is she did it againt Halep who was blowing people off the court, and she did it while constantly being run around the court in extended rallies. At one point in the second I thought maybe she was tiring from all that running and crushing the ball on the run, but then after the first 2 games of the third set, she just started crushing everything again. Second win I guess. but yeah, her ability to never be in a bad position and hit hard heavy shots from anywhere is very Nadal-like(along with dreadful gamesmanship)


      Didnt Victor Conte say he had worked with Sharapova? Why was that never looked into???

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    9. I didn't see the same match because i clearly saw signs of exhaustion at the end of the second set and from time to time during the third set. She played many 3 setters during this Roland Garros, but each time the last set was one way (6/0 against Stosur, 6/1 against Muguruza, 6/2 against Bouchard).

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    10. It's a shame Sharapova won, her demeanour really gets on my tits:
      1. Standing with her back to the court after every point - what's that all about? Does she do that on the practice court? If not, why not?
      2. Sometimes carrying a fist pump back to her seat, right across the court.

      I also hate her gamesmanship:
      1. Screaming until after the ball bounces on the opponents side, sometimes longer than that.
      2. Nice loooooong break after the 2nd there, was she dumping ass or something?
      3. Her serving 'action', the first part of which consists of doing absolutely nothing. Just standing there. For 4-5 seconds. Each serve.

      Actually, it would be quite funny if someone spliced all of that footage together, it would probably be 4-8 minutes of just standing doing nothing!

      Still, a great display from Halep, and she's only 22 so plenty of years in the tank.

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    11. "Can't believe one minute that Sharapova is clean."

      You're a mentally retarded idiot. Who cares what you believe exactly?

      "She has a playing style similar to Nadoosh except without the crazy spin."

      LOL.

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    13. "He always manages to find that incredibly fast serve when he needs it ('10USO)."

      He literally never ever served like that again, even though it would've helped tremendously against Djokovic.

      But hey, who cares about reality.

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    14. "He literally never ever served like that again, even though it would've helped tremendously against Djokovic."

      and that makes it more credible? LOL. You are a funny one. Please explain it to us all then!!

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    15. @That Broke Chef:

      Yes Conte said in a radio interview with Joe Rogan that he worked with Sharapova.

      Sharapova also received shoulder treatment from Dr. Mark Lindsay, a chiropractor in Toronto, who was a friend and associate of Dr. Anthony Galea. In 2011, Galea pleaded guilty to smuggling HGH and other illegal drugs into the U.S. Galea worked a lot with Alex Rodriguez (a two-time busted doper) and Tiger Woods (who has admitted to receiving blood platelet therapy). Lindsay also worked with Rodriguez after this his surgery in 2009. Galea recommended a lot of athletes to Lindsay. Lindsay also received referrals from Conte.

      Many of us believe that Serena, Venus, Errani, Stosur and many others are dopers, however, Sharapova rarely gets any doping scrutiny despite the dodgy associations she has had in the past with two people who were known to be giving illegal drugs to athletes and a third person who was an associate of theirs who received "referrals" from them.

      @Lopi:

      Nope, not one time violation today. Kader Nouni rarely calls those. We needed Eva Asderaki in the chair! She's one of the few umpires who has the courage to call Nadal on his time violation garbage.

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    16. "and that makes it more credible? LOL. You are a funny one. Please explain it to us all then!!"

      Fact of the matter is: his statement was blatantly erroneous.

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    17. @Seeya, Completely agree, although the WTA/Nike would never let it out sadly. It's amazing with all her doping she still can't get anywhere near Serena.

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  23. Sharapova definitely looked revived after that well timed "toilet" break at the end
    of the second set. Now who does that remind me of?

    "These players really destroy the natural beauty of the game". I really like this
    quote because it gets to the heart of the matter. When I watch Nadal or Serena
    play it's like there's nothing left of tennis, as if it's been eaten away from the inside.
    It's like watching zombies play tennis. Throw in some "belief" and "confidence" and
    you get current day grand slam tennis.

    I personally can't wait for the day they need to annul Nadal's 8-9 french open titles and leave
    it open to mark tennis' "golden age". I would like to believe Federer's 2009 would be the only one left standing from the last decade, but maybe that's just naive of me.

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  24. "Sharapova definitely looked revived after that well timed "toilet" break at the end
    of the second set. Now who does that remind me of?"

    Lol, you're mentally ill.

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    1. Glad you chose "mentally ill" this time instead of the incredibly ignorant "mentally retarded" you posted earlier. Are you 12 years old?

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    2. Yes, Lopi, he is 12 years old - mentally/psychologically, that is, though he's quite older biologically, I presume. P.S. See Richard's post below, for "Tommy Hass"''s collected self-descriptions.

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    3. How would you characterize someone with that opinion, dear comissar? Sane and not paranoid? Sharapova coming back against Halep didn't require juice. (and I would be interested what drugs work so short term and how you can take them without the chaperon noticing)

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    4. "Commissar" has two "m"s. Pretentiousness exposed by poor spelling. Add it to the list of things you can't do.

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    5. At the very least with ther "toilet break" she "took" away Halep's momentum. If she took anything else I don't know, but I can't not ask the question.

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  25. The contributions today of "Tommy Hass" (to just one post):

    - "you fucktard"
    - "you idiot"
    - "you mentally retarded idiot"
    - "you're mentally ill"

    Such mastery of the English language, such insight, and such generosity towards the views of others. Not. More like an extended toilet break without a single shot played in court. Tedious infantilism. Yawn.

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  26. Nadal's opponents thus far have each gained only 3 games (Ginepri - ranked 279) at the lowest end to a maximum of 11 games (Ferrer). Murray won only 6 games against Nadal. Before the qtrs Nadal's opponents were averagely ranked at 121.

    Conclusion: Nadal is currently (at this tournament - not earlier in the clay-court season note) beating players in the top 5 as comprehensively as if they are ranked over a hundred places lower.

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    1. I hope to be wrong but I have the gut feeling that Djokovic will not be able to do much better than Ferrer and Murray. Nadal always makes sure he can't be beaten in a FO final and as Richard wrote previously it will probably last a few years more.

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    2. curious to see if the media will ever feel dumb enough for predicting his body breaking down since 2008 at least. They've been relying on the Nadal camp PR bullsh!t for so long now, it's almost unbelievable that nobody has ever tried to inquire more closely like some did with Armstrong. There is nary a doubt in my mind that he is the sport's biggest fraud...it's like everyone has their eyes wide shut.

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    3. The first time I read about a "career threatening injury" for Nadal was in the summer 2006...8 years after, he is the ATP number one and will probably equals Sampras today. Its amazing that a fraud of such scale is still working better than ever after so many years.

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    4. I honestly don't know for sure who will win later today. I thought Nadal was a shoo-in to beat Wawrinka in the Aussie final and look what happened.

      I just don't think the media cares. I really don't. For every Simon Cambers there are twenty Peter Bodos who think doping in tennis is a myth and that the ITF/ATP/WTA are telling the truth when they claim that the players are heavily tested.

      There have been next to no inquiries about Nadal's (alleged) back injury or about his (alleged) constant knee problems. When he won the U.S. Open last year, all we heard about was what a "warrior" he was. The media has little interest in busting the warrior myth surrounding Nadal, and to a lesser extent, the other players on the tour.

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    5. To be fair, I dont even count Rafa's first 4 matches. Even in bad form, he would destroy those guys.

      The first real test was Ferrer who did well to win a set, but admitted to mentally folding in the 2nd set. With a bit more will and belief who knows if Rafa beats Ferrer.

      Murray was dead man walking. Clearly his fitness isnt what it was following surgery and his legs were dead after long matches against Kohlschreiber and Monfils.

      For me, its hard to judge Nadal's rfeal level because he played bums in the first 4 rounds, someone who quit during the second set and a Murray that was dead tired.


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    6. So again, he isnt playing a top player willing to fight and battle who is in good condition til Djokervic.

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  27. I think the media can do nothing really. PRP treatment is legal, TUE is legal. And nobody has data except ITF. ALFD... what else? If ITF is a country, it must be North Korea.

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  28. darmowe pewniaki,typy tenis,skuteczne typy bukmacherskie,wygraj z bukmacherem,typy na weekend,typy na dzis i jutro

    http://darmowepewniakibukmacherskiefixy.blogspot.com/

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  29. I think Djokovic will win today. The funny thing is the commentators were praising his sportsmanship the other day. To be honest watching tennis now (or all top sport come to think of it) is an uncomfortable experience.

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    2. Yes. Djokovic looks gassed & out of hope. Match over indeed. Another sad day for tennis : (.

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    3. Wait a moment with that conclusion. Remember the freakshow in AO 2012.

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    4. Remember it well but that was Oz which Djoker semi owns----better surface for him. No one seems to know what to do against Nadoosh @ French unless they actually test him as is possible what happened 2009 AFLD.

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  30. If Nadal winning nine out of ten RG titles doesn't set any alarm bells
    ringing with doping authorities, it's time to throw in the towel and find
    something else to do watch,

    I give up on watching professional tennis, especially grand slams

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    1. Same here. I've pretty much given up on sports in general, as all of them are likely rife with doping. They should be giving out the trophies to the chemists and doctors.

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  32. The final score line looks strangely similar to most victories of Nadal against Federer at the FO : he loses the first set and then becomes the unbeatable monster we all know too well.
    Congratulations to the cheating Beast. See you next year for your tenth FO.
    I am afraid professional tennis is really dead now.

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    1. History is made today. Congrats WADA, ITF or whoever is responsible, on a job failed.

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    2. Pretty much. I knew Nadal was winning as soon as he won the second set. That was Djokovic's chance to put him away and he failed.

      Anyone notice the lack of crowd reaction to this match? There seemed to be a lot more cheering and passion for the Sharapova-Halep match yesterday.

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    3. It's a sad day when Pete Sampras, arguably the best tennis player ever has been tied by Nadal. He'll probably win the other two majors this year surpass Federer next year.

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    4. When Pete retired 12 years ago a lot of people had him as the best ever, now people almost never talk about him. He gets skipped right over as if he never existed.

      Nadal wants to play until 30 or so, so it's not inconceivable at all that he'll tie Federer in the next two years.

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    5. Pete was way greater than this steroid clown. It was infuriating to see how many balls he pseudo-moonballs after goalkeeping on the baseline. Djokovic, even if he dopes, looks more like an actual tennis player when he hits, Nadal is just a phenom athlete, on drugs. Sampras in my view will remain one of the greatest, if not the greatest for those who understand the sport.

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    6. I agree Beacon Tripper.

      Nadal just told John McEnroe that he was cramping as well as having back issues during the match. He also said how tired he was. Anything to feed the Nadal myth of him always overcoming odds.

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    7. Lol here we go again. So he can't beat Wawrinka with all these ailments, but can beat Djokovic? What utter rubbish. Sure the surface plays a part in all this, but I am sure a 2011 Djokovic would have proved a sterner test. The physical superiority of Nadal in the match was so obvious.

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  33. What an absolute clownfest this match was (yes, I caved and watched it god knows why).
    Djokovic vomiting, Nadal bending over, Nadal having the trainer on standby in case he lost that fourth set...

    Although he scaled that wall pretty damn well considering his "back" issues.

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    1. Glad I didn't watch. I can't stomach the commentators calling Nadal the GOAT and pretending he's achieved all of these results clean.

      It just defies logic. The "chronically injured" Rafael Nadal, signs no signs of decline despite playing the most physical game in tennis history for nine straight years. At 28, he is playing better than Federer and Sampras were at 25. That should be setting off alarm bells everywhere.

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    2. @Jenny:

      It was grotesque, legitimately. I don't know why I kept watching as if I was rubbernecking a car accident.

      It should be setting off alarm bells but all we'll here is the "Rafa is a Warrior" garbage.

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  34. Well so much for my thoughts that Djokovic was loading up for the French. If indeed there is confirmation in my mind that Djokovic has either slowed up on the doping or has stopped it altogether, it has to be this match. He looked gassed, he looked slow, and he looked weak against the weight of the Nadal shot, and this has been a trend I have seen for a while now, especially on the slower courts. I did expect him to come out firing, but he is a far cry away from 2011. Maybe being a dad and starting a family has made him cautious.

    Nadal just peaked again in scintillating fashion after the first set. Either he is a physical specimen unheard of before, or is taking drugs. I don't like the odds on choosing the correct hypothesis.

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    1. Maybe Nole stopped in order to procreate (something that Nadal will never do).

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    2. Yeah I just have this gut feeling that he decided it was too dangerous after the AO 2012 final. He just never has seemed to be able to summon the energy against Nadal. On more favourable surfaces in a best of 3 set encounter, he can simply go for it and win. But on Phillippe Chartrier, with acres of space for Nadal to run, and with the clay being perhaps the most favourable to his heavy spin, I don't think an undoped player can beat the quite obviously doped Nadal. You could see Djokovic giving it all to start with and ending up winded; him and Murray were just schooled in the end.

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    3. You're right about the court. He's right at home there.

      Let us not forget that Soderling beat Nadal on Suzanne Lenglen which is much smaller. When will this end? I'm sure when he finally loses a final at RG that will be the end of his career.

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    4. I think it will be a long time. Nadal does not appear to be willing to stop this charade, and if Djokovic continues on this seeming decline, it will take more than just a few inspirational moments like Wawrinka earlier this season to stop him from breaking the Federer record. My money is on Nadal continuing to go on and win Wimbledon - where the story will then be about how he shrugged off those heartbreaking losses from the years before to come back, a champion blah blah blah.

      Honestly, I can't see anyone beating him when it matters, i.e. in a slam. Djokovic cannot keep up that level anymore and he is 27; around when an athlete naturally declines. Unless he dopes properly, the decline will continue. Wawrinka is 29, Murray is simply not capable of beating Nadal and is a shadow of himself these days, and Federer needs Nadal to be beat to win a slam.

      This could have been quite a terrible turning point in terms of the Djok-Nadal rivalry as well. With impending fatherhood, and an inability to win a slam in about 18 months, do you think Djokovic will have the motivation? I'm seeing it starting to wane. Won't be surprised if we see Nadal dominate for a few more years to come.

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    5. As Richard wrote, you can read Nadal's future just by looking at Ferrer who is even better than before at 32 years old. It means at least 4 more FOs for the juicing Beast. I just don't see how could any other player get even the smallest chance against him in a FO final.

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    6. I think Nadull will win Wimbledon now sadly and probably Serena too "a heroic comeback after the FO", we'll be told. I think Djokovic's level has dropped, whether it's because of clay or due to de-juicing is another thing. I also think Murray has stopped now, which I'm pleased about as a Murray fan. Since Lendl's gone his performances have gone backward and I think his destruction against Nadal is proof of his step down in level.

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    7. Yeah, I think Nadal will be unstoppable until the next generation's top player finally challenges him. Nobody from the current group of 22-28 year olds is going to do it, so it's probably going to be several more years until Nadal is beaten. But it will be interesting to see how Nadal's reign ends. I have a feeling he'll retire abruptly instead of slowly decline and hang around like most other players.

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    8. I think gulbis has the game to do it. At least on non clay slams. He is mentally getting it together and improving

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  35. It boggles my mind how so many Nadal's fans celebrate this new fraudulent victory on every Tennis forum.

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    1. Well, many fans are too young to know that once upon a time (let's say 12 years ago), Tennis was not this unbelievable display of stamina and power.
      It was such a great sport, what a happened to it is a real disgrace. I am beyond anger now, only sadness remains.

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    2. I feel the same way and miss the days of serve and volley, variety of court speeds, and differing game styles. Now tennis is nothing but an endurance test filled with endless boring baseline rallies and defensive tennis. At least there are still videos out there of the old matches.

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    3. It's not just serve and volley. even the baseline tennis back then had more variety, skill and shotmaking. for example, take a look at federer vs safin from AO 2005 (both primarily baseliners), and compare it to the nadal vs djokovic slugfests. the longest rally in that 2005 match was a 22 shot rally. and there were so much variety and shotmaking in that match.

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  36. amazing how this thread has mushroomed since the end of the RG final!

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  37. I hadn't watched much professional tennis the last couple of years, so I came back to this match not being accustomed to seeing Nadal play -- I got to see him with "fresh eyes", if you will. It was pretty startling.

    I don't know what combination of chemicals, hormones, bionics, and/or nanobots is responsible, but the guy is a testament to modern science. Compare him to every other athlete out there (even the suspected juicers) -- it's totally bizarre to watch a ball of muscle in constant motion for hours. Even between points, there's a nonstop flurry of rapid-fire tics and twitches and jittering eyes - it's as if he's electrified. I could see how a burst of adrenaline could make someone like that for a little while, but he's this way for hours on end. People in endurance sports try to limit little unnecessary movements in order to conserve energy... but he doesn't need to, somehow.

    To say nothing of the punishment that his game must inflict on every joint and muscle in his body... I just don't know how much more obvious it could be at this point (short of him dislodging a syringe on one of his butt-picking expeditions).

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  38. I wouldn't be surprised that some pro Nadal freaks discover this site and flood it with their usual ridiculous arguments in favor of the ultimate cheater.

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  39. I can read this post in a spanish blogger

    It was a final Steroids 100% Backache, injured knees, split hand and wrist problems vs Sol exhausting.

    I do not dread the result because it is simple, which was in Montecarlo, Rome, Barcelona and others are smokescreens ...... peds reached its peak when the tournament should be long and was the tournament is.

    Nole was fatigued by the sun or had to stop in order to express the ATP? boys was the perfect excuse to stop for me seeing Murray throw everything out and see Nole today desperdiciendo easy balls I can only believe that it was fixed ....... Since the box was that the tournament was yes or yes for Spanish (of course some say that the pictures do not win tournaments), the truth is much irony in all respects. Rafael lost the first and looks quiet, like his box, Nole coaches saw as if the thing will not mind.

    Proof? that man will never give it positive or hide it, unfortunately the tennis has a steroid problem dramatic but the ATP and ITF cynically using their supposed laws to avoid at all costs over drug testing.

    In one strip the pact between the ITF and the AFLD (French Association of doping) was reported for anti-doping tests but did not fulfill that covenant ITF protected .... Who?

    https://twitter.com/Nicogeay/status/471288913571901440
    @ Nicogeay: L'accès à AFLD n'a pas Roland-Garros or aucune autre agence ts ds les grands tournois. L'ITF for labo choisi UN privé! # Oùestlatransparence?

    "The AFLD has no access at Roland Garros or any other agency in all major tournaments. ITF has chosen a private lab!"

    Private laboratory? are blatant .......

    Do not throw more mind to it, they care about their money, be a star to keep producing silver, in that vein by what happened what happened in tennis is the weather.

    - Slow Slam Tennis in all, do not call us lies but every time it is played on clay ....
    - A player does not fussing because anti-doping tests as happened in 2009 when the AFLD warned last quarterfinals at Roland Garros would testing. We know what has happened ....
    - ITF Doctors performing these alleged evidence, makes mostly Spanish and even the doctors themselves are ue working with players (the joke is told only).
    - The complaint that we seek to silence (few forums, journalists had to be silent).
    - Pictures always easy either for the same tennis player? since 2007 to date. (Each one looked tournaments and tell me if I say lies).
    - The EU gives doping try to hide it (inventing injuries or whatever). If it comes to public light sanctions are go and rest and again three months as Cilic step or if it does not add a player go and give a fuck.

    Anyway, play 5 hours, 6 hours will always equal to that character ...... Unfortunately, your performance in your body in time 'records can not hide.
    This will not stop, until Mr. Federer did not pass, your business can not fall.


    Some believed that the race of him, lasted until 25-26 years ..... his game and his dramatic injury (only the team believes Nadal and ATP) lol clearer example Ferrer is just not is left-handed and has no other luck and Ferrer began his therapy later almost reaching age 30.

    Time proved me right, here we took for granted Nadal because he was weak in previous tournaments (always did) and always gives his blow to the French as usual ..... no wonder why about today.

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  41. I was just thinking. Why isn't it possible to have mandatory testing for any
    tennis players involved in a grand slam final. Wouldn't this be a good basis
    on which to declare a "clean winner".

    And if these mandatory tests also allow samples to be retested in the future
    as the procedures improve, wouldn't that be a foolproof system or at least a
    very good deterrent.

    I can't see any professional tennis player publicly refuse to sign up to this.
    What possible reason could they have not to, besides being guilty of cheating.

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    1. They don't want to catch anybody. Don't you get it? Too much money involved for the sponsors and the tournaments. It won't happen.

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    2. Lopi is correct.

      The ITF has zero interest in doing anything like that. It would be great but they will never agree to it - they think the testing they do is enough.

      If Nadal, Serena, Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Sharapova or any other big name ever is outed as testing positive, the sport will be in big trouble. Tennis has a vested interest in doing as little testing as possible. If they ever did real testing they know the results will be ugly and tennis will be down to the credibility level of cycling and track and field.

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    3. As far as I'm concerned if certain players (whose names will go unmentioned) haven't tested positive despite their results to date, then I don't believe the powers that be have any interest in catching anyone. They catch the journeymen and the guys on the challenger circuit and make great examples of them. They fool most tennis fans into thinking they are actually trying. It's a joke. Agassi stated as much in his biography when he open-ly (pun intended) admitted to testing positive to methamphetamine and it was swept under the rug. Nothing has changed. And it never will. Omerta.

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    4. Why don't they test before or after each final ? I think it is because they fear catching someone. Imagine if a player with one or more GS titles got caught, then what happens ? who gets those titles ? what if there is an avalanche effect and the player who got caught goes "I am not the only one and gives names...." The sport and the sponsors would be in big trouble.

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    5. And the thing with Agassi's admission of his positive drug test being covered up? People got angrier at Agassi for mentioning it than at the ATP for covering it up. It goes to show you where the priorities are.

      Absolutely they fear catching someone big. The first huge name caught means additional scrutiny.

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    6. The only people who can get them to do something honest is the fans. But the fans may as well be sheep. Sheep who like being fed these tales of grandeur; the herd started increasing in numbers just around the time Federer started winning a lot and the sponsors, media and everyone else in tennis were taking maximum advantage of it. At that point, it was just a case of fans disrespecting players from previous generations and different styles of play. Now it has gotten to the point where a blatant doper, the most blatant in tennis history is lauded, given all kinds of accolades and has a growing legend built around him. It is sick.

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  42. Mr. Rooney from Ferris Bueller sums up today's match.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0rPFASUXY

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  43. Did anyone notice nadals serious conversation with uncle toni in the box? Any thoughts why on this joyous occasion

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    1. Toni probably told him they're going to test him after the match. As if.

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    2. Lol! If only that were true! If only. Yeah, was wondering the same thing. It was weird how much he was whispering in his ear & then whispered to some other guy in his box. Thought maybe he was saying we got Djoke & his team with our "intense" regimen.

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  44. I wonder what guys like Borg, McEnroe, Connors are really thinking about all this.

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    1. mcenroe is the biggest steroids cheater of all time you fucking moron

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    2. You cannot be serious! LOL.

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    3. his quote is actually on this site.
      http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com/p/players-talk-about-doping.html

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    4. It is impossible to tell. They have all fallen victim to the PR train and keep saying positive things about tennis today, or simply have aged and cannot comprehend the level of bullshit we are seeing.

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    5. Borg would never say anything controversial, McEnroe used to be outspoken saying there were doping problems in tennis but now he never talks about it. McEnroe rarely says anything controversial nowadays - he;s about as corporate as you can get. Connors might say something but he wants tennis jobs so he won't say anything either.

      Courier was another one who was extremely outspoken about doping in tennis. When he was playing in the 90s he was mentioning EPOs, blood doping, etc. Now that he's a commentator it's like they locked him in a room for reprogramming. He's another one that spouts the company line about doping not being a big deal in tennis.

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    6. mcenroe is obviously in favor of doping, having doped his entire worthless career, fucking lowlife steroids cheater piece of shit

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    7. Even if they do say something, they're classed as being bitter, jealous, not as good as Nadal etc (Noah, Rochus, Kollerer for example).Omerta is all the rage. I wish someone would say something on the women's game, that has been dirty for years, particularly the mid 90s onwards.

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    8. Part of me is waiting for a big scandal to emerge in tennis, but I just can't see it ever happening sadly. The BALCO investigation only happened due to one of the doctors sending a syringe in the post, Armstrong got caught thanks to teammates etc. Who is going to do that in tennis?

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  46. Didn't watch the spectacle (I know better) but can't help feeling disgusted. Haven't read all the posts but let me take a wild guess about what the press had to say: the brave, relentless warrior overcame the odds and found an extra gear and defended yet again his most prized possession in spite of those pesky, unreliable knees and the bad back that has prevented him to win the Australian Open'', right? In that case, there is but only one more thing for me to say:

    VAMOS RAFA!!!!!!!!!

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  47. mcenroe doped his entire career, he's as much of a cheater as nadal

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    1. Besides his tennis genius, Mcenroe haven't won any slam after his 25 birthday. His body was quite normal too for a tennis player. How can he be compared to Nadal the beast on the cheating level? I don't get it.

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    2. obviously his body wasn't normal you fucking moron if he doped his entire career, which he admitted to. and mcenroe had no "tennis genius," that's why he had to dope, because he sucked shit at tennis. just like nadal

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    3. You are obviously a disrespectful retard so no point to argue against your absurd comparison between Mac and Nadal.

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    4. Sorry, you are wrong. He didn't admit to doping "his entire career", he was nothing like the physical specimen that Nadal is, and his racquet skills - like his 'touch' - were widely regarded by his peers as amongst the best ever in the game. The abuse is unnecessary.

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    5. My response above is to "jeff afe".

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    6. While it is possible that McEnroe doped, he certainly was nowhere close to being the most physically imposing player (from what I know of tennis history and videos) and his stellar year in 1984 (not sure if this was the year) was largely due to a superior racquet. But he declined as most players normally do, and traditionally did until this super generation of players came along.

      If Nadal played anything like the modern version of McEnroe; you could be justified in thinking that his longevity was a consequence of amazing skill. Skill rarely dies out; and skill is fortified with experience until your body gives out. But Nadal relies on atrocious spin and athleticism to win, and does it as good as he used to in spite of injuries.

      A good point of reference for me was the Brazilian Ronaldo; who declined visibly after two injuries (there is speculation that they were caused by steroids after he joined Inter in 1997). While I'm sure Ronaldo never worked as hard as Nadal because he was atmospherically more talented at his sport than Nadal is at his, you could see the affect the injuries had on his movements; especially the sharp turns. Tennis has a lot of those sharp turns, and Nadal has a lot mind boggling movements on his great defensive runs. And while the lack of contact makes the impact less severe, I feel that because you are constantly moving in tennis that the general stress on the knees has to be quite close to that of football.

      But Nadal is not declining. He continues to dispose of his toughest opponent more easily than ever before.

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    7. But isn't "atrocious spin" a part of skill?

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    8. Excessive topspin is largely the product of strength, which can be artificially boosted. (Very few women hit with a lot of topspin.) Nadal hits with "30% more spin than any other player on the tour" (Woodward and Stolle). That's a huge margin - unprecedented in the sport - achievable largely through vastly superior strength. All his opponents are highly trained super-athletes. So what makes him so much stronger than them?

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    9. McEnroe's ex-wife said that John started experimenting with Steroids late in his career, after he was frustrated by his lack of success on the court. I am pretty sure (based on his style of play, and his normal career arc) that he had already won his last slam, when he tried steroids. Because of his style of play (serve volley), the steroids didn't help.

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    11. "Disqualified in every match"? He won 7 grand slam titles. You need to go easy on those drugs you have been using.

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    13. Boy, and people call me a paranoid delusional.

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  48. For a while now I have suspected that Nadal makes up his "injuries" as a camouflage for whatever he does to up his game. I think he is very motivated to end up as the GOAT and will do whatever it takes to get there. If you see the way he plays, he doesn't just beat opponents, he wipes the floor with them with his relentless, overpowering game. As someone mentioned here earlier, he could match Sampras' gs total at the French Open alone. If you are going to rebuild a car engine, it can last forever right? Nadal still has another 4-5 years left at this rate IMO. He will look done and dusted today but will be back like an unbeatable beast tomorrow. His resurgence after bad declines is like clockwork as predictable as sun set today, sun rise tomorrow. Fans have grown tired but will the authorities ever grow tired? I doubt it.

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  49. nadal is a steroids cheater and he looks like a monkey

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    2. like a dumb goy who took steroids

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    3. So much science in your observations.

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    5. Anybody else suspect that this guy is a Nadal fan, trying to discredit this site ?

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  51. Unfortunately had to watch the match, as I was with friends. What I found most interesting was the look of despair on Djokovic's face throughout the match. I don't think he every truly believed he could win. Once he lost the second set they were going through the motions, they both knew that there was only going to be one outcome.

    Tennis essentially died yesterday for me. It has been apparent that it has been terminal for the last few years. I have only followed the sport since 2011, when I happened to catch Murray destroying Roddick at Queen's and thought it looked rather fun. Prior to that my only exposure was having been forced to watch Wimbledon in the halcyon days of McEnroe and Borg. At the AO in 2012 I watched Djokovic's 5 hour marathon against Murray, followed by an even longer final against Nadal. My first thought was it is not possible for them to do that without taking something, regardless of how fit they are. I Googled something like "Does Nadal dope", and ended up here. I had no axe to grind, and knew nothing about the sport at all. It was just obvious to me. Nothing I have seen since has altered my opinion.

    I support Murray, and inevitably think he is clean, for reasons I have explained. However I recognise that might be naive. I will continue to watch Murray play, and enjoy his style. What I won't do is take the results seriously. If Murray goes through a tournament and ends up against Nadal or Djokovic and by some miracle wins, as is possible on a non clay surface, the result in my eyes will still be invalid, as Nadal and to a lesser extent Djokovic will have got that far by fraudulent means. If they played undoped, a different opponent might have reached the final with a different outcome.

    Either way tennis as a sport is the joke that cycling once was.

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  52. Tennis died for me as well yesterday, at least on a professional level.
    The way Nadal hugged the trophy as if it was his and his alone was
    the cherry on the cake.

    Why can't we start an online petition asking for these mandatory tests
    for tournament finalists? I can't see any tennis fan that would be against it!
    And if only two people are being tested, cost can't be an argument either.

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  53. What do people think of Bubba Watson in the golf, striping it 350 yards down the fairway on every drive

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  54. If you watch this video you won't see any bandaid on Nadal's arm. No blood test done at this Roland Garros. I remember in the past seeing Federer with a bandaid on his arm where blood had been taken. Not so after the final of a grand slam here.

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Media/Video-Landing/*/Tennis/Media/Videos/Uploaded/2014/6/9/Roland-Garros-2014-Final-Interview-Nadal.aspx

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  55. I have a solution that might level the playing field.What if Djokovic, Federer and Murray hired Uncle Toni as their coach? 9 slams (and still counting) on one surface can't be sniffed at. Gotta be the coach, surely?

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    1. Last night on Radio-Canada (French CBC), I caught a documentary/inquiry on the case of Geneviève Jeanson, a French-Canadian cyclist who got caught for using back in 2005 or so. Two things struck me: 1) this no-name little cyclist (she won several minor races in Canada) started getting on a program at the tender age of 16 (!); 2) She had a very controlling coach, sort of a guru figure, who watched over every little detail for her and arranged for her to meet with doping doctors.

      Now imagine someone like Nadal who comes from money (the Jeanson girl didn't) and from a sport background. In a doping happy country like Spain, with a controllin maniac like uncle Toni pulling the strings and an obedient nephew in Nadal (Jeanson had a temper and a rebellious attitude and butted heads with her coach), sky would be the limit for that person. The cherry on top is that the ATP/ITF just doesn't care. At least it seems like it. We're so powerless, the only thing left for us to do is to stop watching altogether.

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    2. I'm not a hockey fan, but chanced upon a little snippet that showed Martin St Louis (sp?) doing his strength training and a pic of him posing trunks with a hockey stick. He's fully cut, like a body builder and his training included him pushing a contraption in a parking lot with a massive weight attached to it.
      He's of course 38yrs old & playing in the Stanley Cup final.

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    3. Hockey, I'm almost entirely sure of it, is rife with doping. It also has its head in the sand even more than the NFL, if that's at all possible regarding the issue. Moreover, most hockey fans you talk to think only the goons (non skilled players who fight) would use steroids. Hockey fandom and commentators are in the dark ages regarding the doping issue. Basically no one suggests hockey players could benefit greatly from a sophisticated doping regimen.

      P.S. St.Louis is an overachiever and a likely candidate in my opinion, yes.

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    4. Nadal's amazing physical transformation as a teenager itself shows how soon they started what may be the strongest and longest doping program in the history of sport..

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  56. Whatever happened to Djokovic 2011 ?

    This years RG reminded me VERY much of USO 2010. Djokovic fatigued easily, got down on himself, and had trouble with the heat, looked sickly.

    Did he go back on Gluten ?

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    1. I thought the same. Where's the Djoker of 2011? This year's version seems like he's fallen off the wagon - back on gluten. He was gassed from the beginning of the third set. That's the Djokovic of old. You pretty much knew (as he did) that the match was over - as much as he still tried to fight it out till the inevitable end.

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    2. With the insane level played by Nadal during the last rounds of each FO, all his opponents look like juniors. Djokovic did all what he could humanly do IMO.
      I don't think he would have beaten Nadal even if he had made the final 2011 of the FO.

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    1. Lol, obviously you have never seen McEnroe without his t-shirt!

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  59. Of course one of the most dubious aspects of Nadal's latest grand slam victory is that it was so easily achieved and despite the poorest form he had shown in years in the lead-up clay-court tournaments, winning only one - and that was largely because his opponent was clearly injured. What other sportsman is able to transform his form so dramatically, from a series of losses to lesser players to becoming unbeatable - despite injury! - within a fortnight? Whatever else happens in the year Nadal is always at his best for two weeks at the end of May and the beginning of June - with one curious exception in 2009. It's like a switch that he can flick on; he regains his best form for his most important calendar tournament as quickly as turning on a dime. But with everything he does, nothing surprises anymore. Nadal is clearly not like other men.

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    1. When Nadal decides to win a tournament he makes sure that his medical team will secure it at all cost. For example the WTF is the only big tournament he has never won since its by far his worst surface but there is no doubt in my mind that in one of the coming years he will be unbeatable during one edition of the WTF. He just needs one victory.

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  60. TV commentators consistently say how uniquely skillful Nadal is to hit his inside out forehand at 3000 rpm the shot that wins him most of his points. Two tennis coaches that I know say that not only can anyone can hit an inside out forehand but that any decent player can learn to hit topspin forehands at 3000rpm . What makes it impossible to do for any length of time is the HUGE AMOUNT OF ENERGY EXPENDED compared to hitting at 2000rpm which is what most pros do.

    Until they saw Nadal they thought it would be impossible for anyone to consistently run around their forehand and hit at 3000rpm for 3 sets never mind 5.

    They are both convinced that Nadal has been systematically doping in a big way since he came on the tour 10 years ago

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  61. The two coached I spoke to say that everyone involved in pro tennis knows that doping is fairly extensive and that ITF/ATP/WTA doping control are non existent for the top players.
    What stops most players engaging in extensive and prolonged doping are the very significant risks involved. Soviet and East German athletes and swimmers of the 70's and 80's have suffered significant health issues.

    Djokovic is clearly not the never tiring Nadal beater of 2011 and especially the Aus open of 2012. However with 6 slams, having achieved world no 1 and $60 million perhaps with impending fatherhood he no longer wishes to do what it takes to beat Nadal. !

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    1. Very informative, keep it coming richard.

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